It sure looks like we've all been had. I can't tell you how many tears I shed for this grieving mother. We grieved for this woman because of the love that we have for our own children, we couldn't imagine losing a child. We grieved for this woman because we've lost someone close to us in the past. We've all had someone in our lives that we have lost whether it was a family member, a close friend, even a neighbor or a favorite teacher.
Now, I am reading that some of us were blinded by hate for the Gosselins and that is why we believed pennmommy. Quite the contrary, we were blinded by love. Love that we have for our own children, family members and friends. Our love is so strong, we couldn't read between the lines, we knew a few things didn't seem right, but we didn't question because of our love. We all hugged our kids a little tighter last week, we all forgave a little easier last week and we all prayed a little more than usual last week. The prayers were not wasted, prayers are never wasted.
So, yes we've all been had but not because of our disdain for the Gosselins but for the love of our own. So my kids got a few extra hugs last week, I prepared my family meals with a little more effort, I smiled at strangers last week so even if I've been had, I made out ahead so did my family.
After doing a little reading at various sites, it's sad that some posters have to direct their anger towards a website. Or, the one that I love to read "I knew it all along". Yeah, right! And I predicted the last big earthquake. Sure, we may have had doubts but how in the world would you know how elaborate this hoax was all along!
We should all be relieved that there is no dead teenager named Jason. Thank God.
We've been hoaxed. It is what it is.
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
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Finally a voice of reason. The fingerpointing is a little ridiculous. Who knows if PM is a real person or not? We believe what we read. Unless I was face to face with her I would not know if she was telling the truth. I can usually tell by a person's body language, eye movement, and sopeech pattern if they are telling the truth.
That may be but...If PM was a fake and what she said was fake, does that change what Jon & Kate are? Does that mean that Julie's story is fake? I don't think so. The original story that I read from Julie about what happened to Aunt Jodi still rings true for me regardless of whether PM was real or not.(Honestly, I don't know what to think) I think one of the hardest pills to swallow for me is that I don't want to believe anything that is said on "that other" site. I haven't changed my opinion of them whatsoever. I haven't changed my opinion of J&K whatsoever. They still are greedy, selfish liars, they are still using their children to pay the bills and then some. To believe or not to believe PM, that is up to each one to decide. Bottom line, it doesn't matter in the scheme of things. J&K are still who I think they are.
Th whole thing is sad. I think some of the people feel bad because they had let someone into their hearts, while others seem to be of the mind that they knew all along it was a hoax. I like to think I am not so jaded that I was willing to give this PM person the benefit of the doubt.
If I have been scammed or whatever the word is, then shame on me. But I don't have to gloat over it.
This is off topic but I live in NC and I ama former preschool teacher and unless things have changed dramatically your childcare ratios are wrong. If anything I would think they've gotten tighter in the last few years.
AGES: 1 YRS- 1:5 2YRS- 1:8
3YRS- 1:10 4YRS- 1:12
You are a voice of reason. I am a long time reader of GWoP and I wanted to believe so badly that this woman was telling the truth. I didn't know but I'm also glad that there is no dead teenager.
Can somebody clue me in? When did the Penn Mommy is not real come out? This is the first place I've read about it.
Thank you for a rational, well written post. I'm tired of the negativity and fighting. If we've all been suckered, then okay...let's move forward. As you said, it doesn't change the fundamental reasons we disagree with the G's and what is happening to their children!
Wait a minute. Pennmommy herself said she was a fake and that she was, for whatever reason, lying about her son being sick and dying? Or that is just the newest gossip out there? I won't believe it, won't believe we've been hoaxed until it is proven.
I have seen no evidence to support the theory that PM is anyone other than who she says she is. Kon would love us to believe this was a hoax, as would GDNNOP.
And, as mentioned above, I do not see the connection between Pennmommy being a fake and everything that Jon & Kate are doing to their children? Doesn't change a thing.
How do you KNOW she's a fake? I've searched all the blogs and can't find any proof... I'm not questioning you, just wondering how you reached that definitive of a conclusion. I've been wondering myself about the whole thing and haven't been able to find information that convinced me one way or the other. Can you give us a link? Thanks!
The thing is that I didn't need PennMommy to be real in order to dislike what the Gosselins are doing to their children.
Just like with Jon and Kate, I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Even after reading both sides, I don't see enough conclusive proof either way to say whether she is real or fake.
I would rather offer my sympathies to a fake, than be skeptical or cold to someone who was truly grieving.
Whether PM was, or was not, a fake is neither here nor there to me. Sometimes it all seemed fishy to me, sometimes it seemed legit. Does it really matter in the end?
Wait, I forgot I was commenting to say, "thank you" for addressing this since all the other "Gosselins, you are a strange bunch who need to mend your ways" sites seem to be kinda pretty much ignoring the situation which looks even worse, IMHO.
PennMommy is a fraud! Accept it!
I also feel that their is not enough "evidence" on GDDNOP to convince me. Most of the time that I spent reading that stuff, I was thinking "and... and.... and..." - so there is another ip address she was posting from - that person seems convincingly to me to be a completely different person!!! God forbid I take my laptop to my sisters and sign on or use her laptop with my own identities and suddenly I am accused of not existing! Come on!! I admit, there might be somethings to consider but let's not jump to conclusions. At best, GDDNOP proved that there is someone named "possummomma" or something that exists. Well, no one if refuting that, not even possummomma herself. Is she PennMommy? I see nothing that convinces me of that!
I just went to GWoP and noticed that the post from PM has been removed. That suggests to me (with their connection to Julie who first vouched for PM) that PM was not who she/he claimed to be. Which is sad because she seemed liked a voice of reasonable reason.
Now, could we remove the Somewhere Over the Rainbow song so I don't have to jump for my speakers when I visit this blog? :)
LOL - Done!
I believe Pennmommy is real. Her account of her sons illness was too specific, too detailed. It would of have to of come from someone who actually who was experiencing those things or had extensive knowledge of the medical field. The reaction to the antibiotics and then the doctors meeting for the grand rounds to discuss her sons case. I dont think the average person could make that stuff up. I believe she is who she says she is. Julie confirmed that Pennmommy is an actual person who helped the Gosselins. She is real. I think the evidence that gosselins without pity have is sketchy at best it is too vague.
My post at GWOP was never posted. I thought PM snd Julie were in contact? I noticed anything dealing with PM has been removed from GWOP and Julies blog. Why is this such a secret?
My post at GWOP was never posted. I thought PM snd Julie were in contact? I noticed anything dealing with PM has been removed from GWOP and Julies blog. Why is this such a secret?
Because they are too embarrassed/ashamed/humiliated to admit they all made a colossel error in judgement. They choose to just sweep it under the rug and hope it all goes away.
There were several people with USC connections who said they checked it out and said no student had died, other than an off campus shooting. It would have been in their daily college paper. That makes sense. I doubt someone will ever come on and say "I'm Pennmommy, I'm sorry I lied about my son's death. I was just kidding."
Thanks Carol, I was thinking about the alleged roommates of Jason and wondering how affected they were. I am happy to hear no student has died at USC. Even though we have been hoaxed, at least no one really died.
Someone posted this at Bohemian Moon. I thought it was a fair way of showing the truth. I hope you don't mind if I bring it over here
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on 11 Oct 2008 at 1:47 am#28Chris
Marly,
I can’t speak for Momof5 as to what led her to believe that the Pennmommy was a fake, but I can speak as to what led me to believe that she is a lie.
Her biggest mistake was saying that her son was a student at USC. USC has always prided itself that the university is a family. If any student passes away, for any reason, there is an article in the Daily Trojan about that student. There was none.
The weekend of the supposed funeral I had lunch with a friend and her daughter, who does attend USC. It was pointed out to me that the health office is open 7 days a week (verifiable on the university website), so there was no need to wait until after the weekend for any medical attention. They also pointed out that they didn’t think that since “Jason” had an infection that any of his organs were suitable for transplant (sounds reasonable to me).
There also was more, but I don’t want to hijack Moon’s blog.
Am I sorry that I donated some food to a food bank? No
Am I sorry that I made a donation to a DVT education charity? No
Am I sorry that I prayed for this family? No, they still need out prayers that they don’t commit anyother hoax like this.
Do I think that I’ve seen a picture of that young man someplace else before? Yes. And when I remember where I’ll be glad to tell the world, if the world is still interested.
I agree with everything she wrote. There were many "tragic flaws" in the story.
Will the real Penn Mommy please stand up!!!
Do I think that everything Pennmommy wrote is a lie? Maybe, maybe not. I think she may be someone who had some experience as a volunteer with the Gosselins and who started saying things that got her in over her head. So, she "gave" one of her children a serious illness and death as an excuse to get out of it. Maybe we'll find out who she really is, maybe we won't. in the greater scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. What matters is I detest what the Gosselins are doing to those kids.
I'm not sure about PennMommy anymore...too many shaky details, the whole possummomma thing, and all those deathbed writing sessions. None of these ring true to me. However, the Julie/Jodi blog is a sure thing for me. First off the perspective of a sister defending her sister is a positive. The video of the two is clearly Jodi and her sister. I also like the fact that there are no comments on the site. The site is purely for information dispersal not commentary, nam-calling, accusations, or other craziness.
What part of NC are they considering? I live in Raleigh and it's an awsome city to live in. As far as the doggie permits go, it depends on some of the townships you live in. I have a standard poodle and we do not have to pay a dog permit here. And besides if you did, there very inexspensive($20)for the year.
I hope they do move to these parts around here. Raleigh is a great place to raise a family, Ignore all these haters that want to cause controversy on your Family of 8. It seems that you have family members and distant family that are not getting compensated on their terms, for all their jealousy. If people didn't want to watch they do not need to tune in to TLC then. Join some other group to help real kids being abused, not one's that are actually getting fed, loved, and attention!!!
There are plenty of families that do not even care or get abused daily, go help them and spread the word rather than a family who does take care of their own.
I felt funny at first that I had prayed for this family, but you know, God knows that we meant well and seen what was in our hearts, that we care for our fellow man. So I agree with someone else who said our prayers are never wasted.
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